On the eve of the start of the 2006 fall semester Vice President for Student Affairs Dr. Vincent June has fired approximately 29 employees (virtually all) in the FAMU Housing Department. The employee's were let go because they refused Mr. June's, last minute, request to move on campus and be available to students 24/7. The move would have caused the employees to leave homes and their families and relocate to campus housing on such short notice.
The hasty firings could represent another breach of employee contracts.
Employees let go include "dorm mom and dads" and many employees in the main housing office.
The university must now move quickly to find employees to help check-in students who will soon return to campus.This is another set back for the housing department which is still reeling from a 2003 FAMUAN article which described campus housing conditions as "deplorable". See:FAMU Housing Reeks Three years later, many of the deplorable conditions outlined in the FAMUAN remain today.
More on this story as it unfolds...
This is worst than Stalin's purges in the USSR. What type cold, ruthless butchers are running our university?
ReplyDeleteIt looks as if Castell is hellbent upon manufacturing new crises. Despite the fact that she has created these disasters, she continues to blame all these problems on Gainous and Humphries.
ReplyDeleteStill, there will be gullible people like "god bless castell" who will say that Bryant didn't create the problems in housing and she is just cleaning up.
It's clear that the "cure" has become more dangerous than the disease.
Oh, my God this is tragic!! Mass firings? Is this the same Dr. June who did a lap dance at an employee retirement party?
ReplyDeleteTo force university housing employees to live on campus, in the dormitories is anachronistic. This is not 1906, when the concept of in loco parentis ruled in this nation's collge campuses. Since the age of majority is this country was raised to 18, 95% of our college students are legally adults. They don't require the kind of "adult" supervision as FAMU students in the 1930s, 40s, 50s, and 60s did! This is crazy. Poor Dr. June is obviously out of his element and on some sort of power trip! This is really very stupid and tremendously cruel and evil. Are these people running FAMU now really human beings? What happened to Black America's legendary humanity? What are we becoming as a people? What is FAMU becoming? Is it really moving forward or are we in retrograde motion? And, this Dr. June is considered qualified to be a Vice President at such a tender and delicate age himself? I sincerely question the judgment and motives of the people who hired him. This is shameful!
ReplyDeleteI am stunned!!!!!!!
ReplyDeleteWhat.......? God Bless Castell stunned?
ReplyDeleteI constantly hear folks say give the administration a chance, be patient, things are getting better, and pain comes with change.
ReplyDeleteI have been patient, tried giving the administration the benefit of the doubt, hoped and prayed that things were getting better, and felt the pain of changes. But please and I say that with the most humble and soul searching heart, just how much can the university stand.
For the life of me I just don't understand WTF is going on. You mean to tell me that this decision was not one that could have been addressed during the summer months, or for that matter at the end of the spring semester. Truth be told I am at speechless.
I am speaking as someone that supported the university in many ways. It pains me to see a my once proud alma mater becoming the laughing stock of Florida and the U. S. for that matter.
Sign me off as,
Confused and Bewildered
As a person who has a child in the dorm, I am glad they have new staff. The issue is not just dorm mothers or fathers, but the ability of the staff to relate and identify with today's students. My family member had a dorm staff person who was every bit of 70 years of age. This person was older than my family member's parents and grandparents. When you send your child away from home for the first time, you hope there is some adult on campus with whom your child can identify and have as a surrogate parent.
ReplyDeleteThis dorm mother could barely walk and moved around the first floor in a desk chair that had wheels. What if something happened on the second or third floor? This person could not get up the steps quickly to help out. I witnessed a situation where on move-in day last year, a family was holding the elevator on the third floor and others were assembled waiting for the elevator to come down. The housing staff member could not get up the steps to tell the people to release the elevator. The person sent someone else up to do her job. This was unacceptable and that person was a liability to the university.
If there were an emergency situation where the dorm person needed to alert our students to get out of the dorms, this person could not do it. This is a lawsuit waiting to happen.
Obviously from the above responses, many of you have not met the housing staff, the majority are older than Methusalah. I am not age discriminating, but our housing staff needs to be younger, more vibrant and creative in their interactions with our on-campus students.
My undergraduate institution had dorm personnel who were from 25-50. They were graduate or returning students in many cases. They worked with the RAs to plan activities for their dorms. They were also a resource for students. They led seminars on issues of sexuality, dating, getting along with your roommate etc. Would you as an 18 year old attend a seminar on sexuality given by a 70 year old?
Our students deserve better than dorm staff that sit at the front desk all day watching soap operas (I have witnessed this as well). My family member viewed the dorm staff as worthless.
Lastly, it is not just monitoring that these people do. Supposed a young lady is attacked while coming from a party late a night. You want to feel that the person she needs to confide in, can develop a rapport with the student, understands the complexities of dating in the 21st century, and can use and understand the relevant language that students prefer. Another example, most mental health issues surface during the college years. If there is a mental health crisis (student threatening suicide) wouldn't you want an adult with some training in guidance and counseling to be available while waiting for the police to arrive?
I for one support the decision because I know we need more staff on campus that can develop a rapport with our students, and be mature enough to assist and help when real problems surface. It is a very good idea to have this person down the hall, readily accessible to students and not at the counseling center that is only open from 9-5 pm.
As I read this blog, I am concerned about the responses people have with very little understanding of what happens on the campus. Every change is challenged. Some of the changes that are occuring on the campus are good changes and long overdue.
You said, "Oh, my God this is tragic!! Mass firings? Is this the same Dr. June who did a lap dance at an employee retirement party?"
ReplyDeleteI am rotfl - rolling on the floor laughing! You mean, Is this the same Dr. June who did the lap dance IN THE PERSONNEL OFFICE OF THE FOOTE-HILYER ADMINISTRATION CENTER, ROOM 209, with the Personnel Director ON STATE TIME, as she sat laughing and enjoying every minute of it? AND TURNED around and dismissed a number of employees that week and several weeks after that because of crap, including talking about that incident. OR DO YOU MEAN is this the same Dr. June who, along with the Personnel Director and at least 10 other employees around campus who get their cars washed on the grounds of Foote-Hilyer... or (business name not mentioned here because he really does have a nice business)... have their car detail man to come into their offices weekly, interrupt FAMU's business to pick up/deliver keys so that they can keep their cars clean? I'm sure that they want to drive home in a nice, detailed car at the end of the day after firing so many people? P.S. I'm not through yet! More coming! I am soooooo very tired of these people... FAMU is no longer a solid historically black college university, it is rapidly becoming the largest, yes the LARGEST HISTORICALLY BLACK GAY UNIVERSITY in this country! We are beginning to call this place HBGU!!! And those who read this message board regularly know what I'm talking about. Don't act like you don't! Since January 2005, you and I both know that there are (at least) 8 new leaders hired at the university, who are obviously gay and hiring their gay brothers/sisters or sisters/brothers. YEP! I said it! I AM SO SICK OF THIS! If these innocent people have been fired because June wanted them to live 24 hours a day in those funky, bat infested, mold and mildewed places, and leave their spouses and children at home, they need to rally together and march to the governor's office. I'll be right their with them. Who, except June and his newly hired friends would even want to stay in the dorms full time? They stopped that foolishness in REAL UNIVERSITIES back in the 80's. Okay! I'm through for right now.
I question the validity of this story. I too am aware that the Vice President wanted to have on-site dorm managers, but that is not anachronistic. Dorm managers are entry-level positions for persons in counseling. Dorm Managers are expected to come up with a program of activities that speak to the social and cultural maturation of the young men and women in their charge. Dorm managers are never expected to be a position student affairs perrsonnel retire from. The benefits of young mature graduate- age young people managing the dormitory on site has enormous benefits in programming and security. They can relate and provide counseling. You will recall in Different World that Sinbad and then Jasimine Guy were all counselors who lived on site and they were all young people who used the position as a stepping stone. Just somethinmg to think about!
ReplyDeleteOur knee jerk response relative to our alma mater should not always be negative.
"When you send your child away from home for the first time, you hope there is some adult on campus with whom your child can identify and have as a surrogate parent."
ReplyDeleteDEAR PARENT! PLEASE BE CAREFUL WHAT YOU ASK FOR! There are many, many wonderful people on FAMU's campus that your young rattler will be able to identify with. I've always said that the FAMU professors and many of the support staff are the best you can get at an HBCU. Your young rattlers will have many opportunities to relate to others who will become their surrogate parents.
BUT! Do you really want young people, energetic or not, who will have to make, sometimes emergency situations, about your young rattlers. AND, you are "hating" when you discriminate because of age. FSU and other prominent universities around this nation, continue to HIRE and RETAIN older employees because of their wisdom, knowledge and years of understanding.
Your quote was: "This dorm mother could barely walk and moved around the first floor in a desk chair that had wheels. What if something happened on the second or third floor? This person could not get up the steps quickly to help out."
SHAME ON YOU! That's somebody's mother you're talking about. What if your mother was in the same physical condition and needed a job to help pay for her food, insurance, medicine? I bet that same person you talked about will know how to REACT IN ANY TYPE OF EMERGENCY SITUATION - whether she can move as fast as you want her to or not!
By the way, Good luck to your young rattler as she/he completes his education at this great university. Godspeed.
To Anonymous @ 8/20/2006 2:04 PM
ReplyDeleteIt appears that these people were not fired because they were not able to climb stairs or relate positively to students, or because they did not perform their jobs well. It seems they were fired because they refused a last minute demand that they live in the dorms. Until I know more of the details, I will withhold judgement on the motives behind the firings. However, the methods seem self-evident: Reactionary, unwise, unfair, and unkind.
These types of decisions continue to plague FAMU. Dr. Bryant will be remembered as a meanspirited and petty autocrat, lacking respect for due process and concern for people. As previous posters have noted, change was underway. Dr. Gainous and his VPs and other staff were in the streets and dorms, helping students and parents tote their stuff up to their rooms. What a different world! I hope and pray we return to being such a fine and caring institution again. Soon!
Dr. Gainous and his VPs and other staff were in the streets and dorms, helping students and parents tote their stuff up to their rooms. What a different world! I hope and pray we return to being such a fine and caring institution again. Soon!
ReplyDeleteTHANK YOU WRITER! WHAT A WONDERFUL WAY TO REMEMBER DR. GAINOUS AND HIS VPs! I could not have said it better. I think I will pull out some of the old pictures from the Democrat where Dr. Gainous was carrying those heavy suitcases that were almost as tall as he. And the poor man worked from sunup to past sundown. Dr. Gainous wanted parents to know that the entire university rallied behind the "May I help you" campaign. Many, many staff from all over campus volunteered to help the incoming students get settled in. And without pay on Saturdays and Sundays, I must add.
There were probably some of those "old women" who couldn't move from behind a chair, who helped also. Yes, as a matter of fact, they did! And guess what WRITER of one of the previous messages, that same older lady may have injured herself as she tried to help someone's child. You better be careful when you talk about the older people in the dorms. Believe me! You want them there! They're the reason the dorms still have some dignity.
Many times, Rattler Nation is a head of traditional newspapers.
ReplyDeleteAnonymous @ 8/20/2006 2:34 PM said, "I think I will pull out some of the old pictures from the Democrat where Dr. Gainous was carrying those heavy suitcases that were almost as tall as he. And the poor man worked from sunup to past sundown. Dr. Gainous wanted parents to know that the entire university rallied behind the "May I help you" campaign. Many, many staff from all over campus volunteered to help the incoming students get settled in. And without pay on Saturdays and Sundays, I must add."
ReplyDeleteIf you find those pictures, maybe we can make a list of all the kind and hardworking former administrators shown in them, who have subsequently been fired by Dr. "Cast'm-all-to-hell" Bryant!
Why are we continuing to let Vincent June make these major decisions in the Division of Student Affairs? The man was already publicly discredited he claimed that FAMU had a "diversity" problems.
ReplyDeleteJune wanted FAMU to find money to recruit more white students, but said nothing about restoring money that's been slashed from black student recruitment efforts. We don't need a VP who thinks that recruiting whites is more important than FAMU's historic mission to educate blacks.
Florida Gulf Coast University is not a strong model for FAMU and we should have never hired a VPSA from there. We need to put an end to this incompetent, misguided fool's tenure IMMEDIATELY!
anonymous at 2:11 p.m.....
ReplyDeleteIt is always easy to try to discredit the validity of the information reported than to simply face the truth. My uncle, a 22 year employee, was one of those caught up in this mess. So, I know its true. I'm surprised it has taken this long to be reported on.
In regards to your comments--there are many years between 18-70. I am suggesting dorm personnel who are adults, not peers to the students, but certainly not their grandparents.
ReplyDeleteThe reality is that if people continue to need to work there should be an opportunity to find more suitable work for their limitations. Walmart is a perfect example of an employer who hires senior citizens. Also these same persons can work at senior citizen complexes,churches, can do homecare, etc.
To work at UPS you have to be able to lift a certain amount of lbs to do the job. There is nothing wrong with asking that people be in good health, capable of climbing stairs, capable of doing some lifting, having experience in guidance and counseling, etc. All jobs have requirements and so should our dorm personnel.
I assure you if you walked through the dorms at FSU, you would not see 70 year old dorm mothers.
There is a whole field of research and organizations that exist for student affairs and college campuses. Why do the people on RattlerNation think they are experts on everything? I assure you that many of the items that are being implemented on FAMU's campus are consistent with what we see at other major universities.
Young people want to have the opportunity to interact with people who are more closer in age. Just ask some of our young alumni why they won't join the alumni association---age of members and lack of relevance of activities to young alumni.
The university's first responsibility is to its client which is the student and his/her parents. Young people want people they can identify and relate to. There are 30, 40 and 50 year old people who also have wisdom, not just 70 year olds.
I hope to live to be 70 years of age. I also understand people need to work. However, there may be other suitable occupations for them other than dorm personnel.
In regards to wonderful people on the campus, yes there are many. However, faculty and administrators go home at night. Many times students are most relaxed and needing engagement in the evenings when they do not have to run to classes. Adults need to be made available on campus in the evenings as well, i.e. dorm personnel.
I find it ironic all this love for Dr. Gainous. Where were all of you when he was being forced out. How many of you wrote letters on his behalf to the BOT begging him them to keep this wonderful president? I find many of the comments on this rattlerblog very interesting. I guess the position is "hate whoever is president". When they are no longer president, they were the greatest. As a people we need to learn how to support our leaders, not rag on them while they are leading and loving them when they are gone.
Please forgive my ignorance. But what are Resident Assistants (RA's) for?
ReplyDelete"Why cant folks learn to express concern or displeasure without waging nasty peronal attacks. Commentary concerning one's sexual preference is out of bounds, that is between themselves and God, not the Rattler Nation blog."
ReplyDeleteWHO ARE YOU? THE PERSONAL ATTACKS MONITOR? This board does not have restrictions on what you can and cannot say. The ENTIRE MESSAGE BOARD SYSTEM IS FULL OF PERSONAL ATTACKS AND PEOPLE ARE OUT OF BOUNDS EVERY DAY WITH THEIR COMMENTS - that's the nature of a message board - that's why people put their garbage on it and click anonymous - as you did - or have you not been reading correctly? And, sorry if that writer stepped on your toes. ;-(
I don't think that writer gave any names or any positions of any gay people. It was just a comment, just as everyone else has been making. If ya'll can say whatever you want about Castell, about E.C.W., about R.B. and the other Trustees, about our governor, about old, disabled people working in the housing departments, SURELY YOU SHOULD NOT GET OFFENDED WHEN SOMEONE MAKES A COMMENT ABOUT the influx of gay personnel in top positions at the university. Surely. Black people don't get offended when you beat up on white people on message boards. Don't get all "holier than thou" on me now, message board anonymous writers!!!!!!!
Sexual preference may be between a person and his/her God, but..... when your son is on a college campus and has to deal with gay males in leadership and administrative positions, all over campus, who are openly gay and bordering on being flirtatious, it becomes a parent's concern.
When your son feels uncomfortable going to a male administrator to discuss a problem, it's a problem. Of course, I didn't say this is the case at FAMU.
The writer didn't name names or positions, but people are whispering, shaking their heads, "puking" or laughing, about the influx of gay hires, every where you go on campus. Parents are talking about it after they leave different kinds of orientations. Two talked with me today about this. Alumni are talking about it after they leave their meetings. Trustees are making comments. We need to stop pretending that there is not a potential crisis here.
But, as a parent, as a serious Alumni, as an employee, I will say, YES, I PERSONALLY FEEL THAT THERE ARE TOO MANY YOUNG GAY MALES BEING HIRED IN KEY LEADERSHIP POSITIONS AT FLORIDA A&M UNIVERSITY! Is that a prejudice statement? Yes. Do I care? No.
BTW and back to the initial Housing commentary. I think RN has the # wrong. There were some employees that are no longer needed at the University, but not 29. The decision was a last minute decision. None of these people were given advanced notice, or any other type of official notice. As of tomorrow, there will be more ex-FAMU personnel in the unemployment lines (housing department). Couldn't this have been done earlier in the summer, so that the incoming freshmen and other returning (housing) students would not have been affected? Yes. Again, we are giving the impression that we don't care about the lives and the families of personnel who have given the majority of their professional life at FAMU. Many of these affected people are over 50 years old.
Now, I'm talking about Vince June. That's an obvious pattern that he continues to have - firing or demoting people over 50 years old. He has done this repeatedly since the time he came on campus. This can easily be proven by reviewing the personnel records of those he has fired/demoted/ reassigned.
One person made general comments about the increase in the number of gay administrators on campus. The VPSA at FAMU fires people over 50 - at will. BACK TO YOU WRITER -Wonder which one of these people is making the worst personal attack?
Sounds like a class action lawsuit waiting to happen - personal attacks on older Americans - age discrimination - Anybody else thinks so? OCR does!
Sorry to all message board readers if I offended you in any way in this response. The Housing dilemna touched the last sensitive nerve that I had today.
WRITER = I hope to live to be 70 years of age. I also understand people need to work. However, there may be other suitable occupations for them other than dorm personnel.
ReplyDeleteWHERE? Welcome to Wal*Mart. And no medical benefits, no chair to sit in?
Writer - I gave my comments about President Gainous to the appropriate people. There were many of us who supported Dr. Gainous, but no enough to make a difference. Not everyone thought he was a bad president.
Writer - If you don't work on campus, and walk in others' shoes, or you are not around when your relative is affected and given 2 hours notice that he/she no longer has a job - after years of dedicated service - you really would not understand. As a Black person, you should though.
Writer - You said, "As a people we need to learn how to support our leaders."
WRITER - My response - Our "older Black Americans" are our leaders. I hope you make it to 70 and you have raised 6 children, supporting all of them through college at FAMU, a number of grandchildren, and still feel dedicated enough to work at your alma mater, when you can't hardly get out of bed."
It's really sad that people think older Americans are not creative and that they don't know what to do. Or they are no longer needed because of their age. No other culture does that. Sad! Sad! Sad!
All jobs have requirements and so should our dorm personnel.
ReplyDeleteThey do have requirements. Or, at least they did have them, before the VPSA changed them. They just don't have to wear brown uniforms as your UPS people do, nor are they required to lift 85 pound boxes and take them upstairs, or drive a big brown hot truck. You don't need to be able to run, jump, skip, say, "yessa massa" and carry cotton or water on your head to work in the dorms. And a parent is kidding him or herself if he/she thinks these young Rattlers really care about who sits at the front desk in their dorms, or checks to see if the doors are locked.
By the way, Resident Assistants are the ones who really takes care of the students on their floors and help with planning creative activities, etc.
Some people think that the Apostle Paul was gay....
ReplyDeleteAs an observation, I notice many African Americans still working in their later years. Some have to and some choose to. I also notice in other cultures, when people do not need to work, but want to stay active they volunteer in other social services. We do volunteer, but many times not at the same level. Let's not assume that everyone working really needs to work.
ReplyDeleteI personally have Aunts who are 75 and still actively working. Good for them. They do not need the money, but want to get out the house. What about the young person who is raising children and could use that well paying job?
When you read labor statistics, in some areas they cannot find the skilled labor to do certain jobs and older Americans are staying in the job longer. In other situations you have young people who need jobs and cannot find them.
We are not going to solve this problem on this board, but how do we as a society, move forward and address everyone's need to feel actualized?
However, I stand by my position that changes do need to occur at the university. Yes a lot of people will have their lives turned upside down and others will see improvement in their quality of life.
Having a mixed workforce is nothing new. You see it all the time where companies and the government offer early retirement packages to create positions for younger talent that has more current skills. They recognize the importance of preparing their various organizations for future survival. Right now the federal government is recognizing the graying of the workforce. Several agencies offered early-out packages and have become more aggressive in hiring youth in preparation for the future.
The flip side of the equation is that there are many young people in need of jobs who are also raising families. Many of them are not able to find jobs, to bring their ideas forward because in some cases jobs are occupied by people who really do not need them but have not developed other social outlets to feel connected to society.
This leads to another issue...Why we need more faculty who do research. There are many societal problems that require further study by social scientists. If we at African-american insitutions don't hire faculty that are interested and capable of doing the research either it does not get done or it is done by majority institutions. I challenge you to look at the millions of dollars majority institutions have to study minority populations. This is money that should be on our campus. However, if you don't have the right faculty, aint nothin happening...
Maybe we need a different paradigm for addressing the aging workforce in the African American community. Who is studying this? FAMU isn't, because we are not interested in freeing up faculty lines for people who are interested in doing research.
I know I have started another discussion, but so be it!
Anonymous said..8/20/2006 4:59 PM
ReplyDeleteIn regards to your comments--there are many years between 18-70. I am suggesting dorm personnel who are adults, not peers to the students, but certainly not their grandparents.
Anonymous, have you heard of discrimination? Well, if some of these people were fired because their age, look for more lawsuits file under AGE discrimination.
None of this makes any sense whatsoever.
Anonymous said... 8/20/2006 2:06 PM You said, "Oh, my God this is tragic!! Mass firings? Is this the same Dr. June who did a lap dance at an employee retirement party?"
ReplyDeleteI am rotfl - rolling on the floor laughing! You mean, Is this the same Dr. June who did the lap dance IN THE PERSONNEL OFFICE OF THE FOOTE-HILYER ADMINISTRATION CENTER, ROOM 209, with the Personnel Director ON STATE TIME
You are making me puke. Janie Greenleaf... damn she is sho'.... Color Purple ugly.
Everything today is about discrimination. Now we have too many gays on the campus; but it is ok to have heterosexual predators on the campus. What about all of the older adult males who are taking advantage of the young women on the campus. Why aren't we talking about that? We are concerned about homosexual male administrators potentially taking advantage of impressionable males. Let's be fair.
ReplyDeleteHere is the lastest as it relates to my niece and McQuinn Hall. I am sad to say that FAMU has lost a student before classes even start.
ReplyDeleteThe former dorm director has been fired. And forgive me for not saying her name. When all this went down she was informed that she would be reassigned, but she has no job. As she was never reassigned.
The newly hired Dorm Director is a recent graduate of FAMU now in grad school. Space in Diamond Hall was converted for her housing.
Word on the yard is that those folks will say anything to get you out of their face or office. Once you are gone, it's like the meeting never took place.
ReplyDeleteWord of advice, carry paper and pencil. Anything those fools say, write it down and have them to sign off on it before you leave their presence, because you are dealing with a bunch of lying ass dogs.
This entire sorid affair could have been handled better.
ReplyDeleteThis is so, so very unbelievable. I mean, I'm absolutely speechless. How does something of this magnitude continue to happen at a public university? What were these people suppose to do? Just up and leave their own families in 24 hours and go live with students? CVB & June vincent have absolutely lost their mind. If this is not one of the most egregious acts that I have ever witnessed in all of my life, then there are no such egregious acts to ever have been witnessed. God Help Us All.
ReplyDeleteJanie Greenleaf...Color Purple ugly.
ReplyDeleteYou got that right.
I wonder if Rev. Holmes will express the same level of outrage about these folks as he did when the SBI were terminated.
ReplyDeleteHis reaction/actions will tell us whether he cares about all of the people - all of the time. Or, if he is only concerned with some of the people - some of the time(i.e.,when one of his members loses their job).
I'm prayerful that he does in fact care about all of the people employed by FAMU. Whether they are a professor or a painter; a Vice President or a janitor; We are all human beings who deserve to be treated equitably.
Does the VP & Cast"iron" HELL understand anything?
You all can't continue to destroy people's lives and dreams and their family's lives (on a whim).
Hopefully, everyone will be as outraged about these mass firings as I am. And, hopefully the appropriate action will be taken.
There must be an investigation into this mess!!!!!!!!
Er'body complaining on this board need to STFU cuz yall allow Castell to get away with this BULL SHIT!!! This lady has been in power for over a year and no one has protested, did shut-ins, or other means to remove her. So until any of you r willin to take action STFU!!
ReplyDeletejust caught up with the story. can you say: unprofessional?
ReplyDeleteI REBUKE YOU SATAN IN THE NAME OF "JESUS!" Why can't we just ALL GET ALONG? Hallelujah!
ReplyDeleteIt's funny how some of you all bring religion into this mess, knowing good and well the man upstairs ain't got nothing to do with this.
ReplyDeleteDo you really think GOD has anything to do with all of this confusion, lying, firings, cussing, audits gone bad, the blame game, disrespecting our forefathers/mothers and leaders who paved the way to be able to say FAMU has outstanding graduates, FAMU is this, FAMU is that?
Please leave God out of this!
That's why I said, "I REBUKE YOU SATAN! IN THE NAME OF JESUS! And, I will say it again and again until ALL THEM DEVILS ARE OFF THAT CAMPUS...!
ReplyDeleteNow, you know good and well,
"It's ALL GOD, oops! I mean Good! God! Good! God! God! God!
Are you getting it yet? If not, keep on calling his name...
This ain't me...the spirit just all ova' MY HANDS! Hallelujah!
I can't believe someone would say "leave God out of this?" If God where not holding FAMU in the palm of his hands, I would hate to imagine where it would be?
ReplyDeleteDid not Jesus go into the midst of the temple with the thieves, liars, whore mongers, gamblers and fire them "at will" and turn over tables?
It's HARD OUT THERE for a REAL LEADER!
A little over a year ago, a group of students marched around the FAMU campus, in prayer. One student declared, "Satan will NOT have this University!" I said to myself, "who could step into this position, given the current circumstance!" I offered up a prayer for FAMU...A few months later Dr. Bryant was hired...
God works in mysterious ways. We may not understand his wisdom...and we don't have to...
Anonymous said, "Now we have too many gays on the campus; but it is ok to have heterosexual predators on the campus."
ReplyDeleteNO! It is not ok. It doesn't seem that people were saying that there are too many gays on campus; they were saying that there are too many GAY ADMINISTRATORS being hired on campus. That's different. We must get rid of predators no matter what color of pants they choose to put on in the mornings. If you know of predators on campus, you should do something about them... call the PD. TELL SOMEBODY!
Anonymous said....8/21/2006 8:55 PM
ReplyDeleteSo now you are saying God answered your prayers and sent Castell?
Please, give me a break.
Rattlers consider the harm you are doing to the black race not just FAMU.Man that Crab in a Pot syndrome or Jim Crow syndrome really works. You all should be tired of them white folks making fun of FAMU on the news. White folks laugh at us everyday saying look at them Black Folks(N WORD) over there just destroying themselves. This is not the time to air out dirty laundry on myspace.com or some runaway website. The Bible says when the righteous is in authority the people rejoice. Begin to pray for your leaders as Jesus warned us to do. By the way the Legislators,Attorneys,Court Staff,and Florida State Employees receive mobile details also. Dr. June has never received a car wash on campus. Those guys from the car wash has not been on campus in months. Dr. June was not comfortable getting his car washed on campus because he did not want to set precedence.I agree those guys have a nice business. Leave them out of it please. They are young black men trying to earn an honest living. I commend any brothers out there working not selling drugs, robbing, and stealing. Pray for the future of FAMU and let God Be God.
ReplyDeleteRattlers consider the harm you are doing to the black race not just FAMU.Man that Crab in a Pot syndrome or Jim Crow syndrome really works. You all should be tired of them white folks making fun of FAMU on the news. White folks laugh at us everyday saying look at them Black Folks(N WORD) over there just destroying themselves. This is not the time to air out dirty laundry on myspace.com or some runaway website. The Bible says when the righteous is in authority the people rejoice. Begin to pray for your leaders as Jesus warned us to do. By the way the Legislators,Attorneys,Court Staff,and Florida State Employees receive mobile details also. Dr. June has never received a car wash on campus. Those guys from the car wash has not been on campus in months. Dr. June was not comfortable getting his car washed on campus because he did not want to set precedence.I agree those guys have a nice business. Leave them out of it please. They are young black men trying to earn an honest living. I commend any brothers out there working not selling drugs, robbing, and stealing. Pray for the future of FAMU and let God Be God.
ReplyDeleteGod's annointment is all over Castell Bryant. His will is being done through her, that's why no harm will come to her and she will be afforded the time necessary to complete His will. Jesus was not popular with the masses during His life "He came unto his own...His own received Him not". Keep working CVB, you are on the right path
ReplyDeleteGod did not tell Bryant to lie about the university's finances. If you worship a God of deceit, then you're not worshiping the Lord in Heaven.
ReplyDeleteYou're worshiping the god of another place...
Anonymous said...8/22/2006 8:59 AM
ReplyDeleteThis is blasphemous.
>>>This is not the time to air out dirty laundry on myspace.com or some runaway website.<<<
ReplyDeletePlease don't try and hide behind that lame excuse. The Bryant administration is working in a very deliberate fashion to deceive and mislead FAMUans, state officals, and Florida taxpayers.
Rattlernation is countering Bryant's propaganda campaign with facts that expose what is really going on at FAMU. If you want the leaks and bad news to stop, then you had better ask Bryant to stop putting false information and half-truths in the public domain.
The devil is a liar and we rebuke thee. Get thee behind us Bryant!
ReplyDeletehFor all of you attacking FAMU's elderly employees, you should know that Castell Bryant, herself is 68. And furthermore, Bryant and her friends have been some of the most outspoken critics of alleged age discrimination at FAMU.
ReplyDeleteIn 2001, when the FAMU BOT hired Henry Lewis as interim president over Eva C. Wanton (then 66-years), Bryant encouraged Wanton to file an age/gender discrimination suit against FAMU. The frivolous half-baked case was thrown out by an administrative judge without a hearing.
It is completely hypocritical for Bryant's supporters to champion age discrimination against housing employees when Bryant and her friends have tried to use unsubstantiated age discrimination complaints to their advantage.
This is my first time to this blog, but I will be coming back again. First I would like to say that I lived on campus for two years and I can attest to the fact that the dorm staff needed to be fired. Not necessarily for the reason that they were given, but for all of the other infractions that they have amounted over the years. I have no personal vendetta's but I know that if I were to send any of my children to FAMU then I would like to know that there was indeed someone that was capable of getting to my child. I remember my freshman year I was in a car accident and I couldn't get around on campus for about 3 weeks. The director of the dorm came to see me once and the staff never came. My RA was there but not because it was part of her responsiblity but because she was my friend. When I first returned to the dorm the dorm "mother" sent one of the RA's in training to my room ( which was on the first floor) to find out what happened. This person hadn't even gone through actual training, it was a fiasco. So I say stop getting upset about the little things and try to look for the good that will come of these changes. I worked for a retail store during the Christmas season and they required us to be at work at 3:00am on black friday and the day after christmas, if you weren't there then you were fired because you didn't report to work. How is this any different. I wasn't like he asked them to move into the dorms permenantly, he asked for them to be there during move-in, a time when parents would like to see and get to know people that will directly impact the lives of their children for atleast one year. Remember people that the university is a business and must operate as such and it is about time that they started acting like it. You think that they wouldn't do the same thing at FSU, think again. They would, we just wouldn't hear about it. ( FYI: Mostof their staff is on-camnpus during move in, I worked for a former employee of the housing department over there for 2 years)
ReplyDeleteAll of you should be ashame of yourselves. Stop airing your dirty laundry in public. Unless you talk with the person responsible and can do something about the condition, this kind of talk is useless.
ReplyDelete1)Private universities are businesses!
ReplyDeleteJust because we want structure and accountability doesn't mean that FAMU should be, or is a business.
2) Fu** fsu!
Of course we wouldn't hear anything about what is goin on there or anywhere else because we don't have a vested interest! Also, we exist for different reasons and purposes things should not be default for every university. Of course the crabs who do pay attention will justify the effect of some bad decisions and policies because they think that fsu and most other pwis have odorless poop.
3)I'm not sure of all of the reports of homosexuality getting in the way of the job but this is NOT B-cc or some other religious-based entity. I KNOW THAT THERE ARE MORE OBVIOUS REASONS to dispute them being hired. Try not qualified? That would cover CVB too! eureka!