In a six page letter to BOT Chair Challis Lowe, the Southern California Chapter of the FAMU NAA expressed its grave concerns over what it termed as the University's alarming lack of involvement as an equal partner with the FAMU/FSU College of Engineering.The So. Cal Chapter (SCC) also expressed dismay at the University's 95.2% decrease of National Merit Achievement Scholars between 2000-2005. The SCC drew a direct correlation between the decline in the recruitment of scholars and the 37.3% derease in first-time-in-college engineering students enrolled at FAMU. According to the National Merit Scholarship Corporation, 16.7% of all 2005 Achievement Scholars intended to major in engineering ---the largest major choice reported by scholars.
Despite the fact the the FAMU/FSU College of Engineering has gained acclaim as the #2 producer of African-American baccalaureates during the 2004-2005 academic year, FAMU's contribution doesn't contribute much to the #2 ranking. Nor does FAMU participate in the joint management meetings of the COE.
The SCC complained that the interim-resident (President) has failed to establish any kind of relationship with the Engineering Dean.
Between 2000-2005 while the number of engineering B.S. degrees to African American increased by 9.1%, the number of B.S. in engineering degrees awarded by FAMU declined by 25.8% over the same period.
Nor does FAMU participate in the joint management meetings of the COE.
ReplyDeleteThere you have it.
Dean Chin's changing the face of the E-Sch "into little Beijing Univ." sounds a bit racist to me. Can we not do that here?
ReplyDeleteCalifornia companies have been recruiting FAMU Engineering graduates consistently in recent years. Many of our recent Engineering graduates are properly alarmed by the turn of events at COE, and brought this issue to the local chapter.
ReplyDeleteWe encourage all the chapters to research and document the facts, then contact the BOT with your concerns.
Anonymous said...Dean Chin's changing the face of the E-Sch "into little Beijing Univ." sounds a bit racist to me. Can we not do that here?
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As a former grad of the E-Sch, this is very much true. Read some of his comments regarding minority (Black) students. "They complain too much, their high maintainance and they require too much attention," so says Chin.
On the other hand, Chin actively recruits Asian students who don't mind surviving on $6-$8,000 a year, sitting in their labs, and missing meals. This is a life of luxury compared to where they come from and cheap labor for the professors who have them in their labs. However, many of their funding agencies think because their grants are going to a HBCU they are helping Blacks, but they are not.
America has invested too much of American taxpayers monies in producing foreign students with PhD's that they now represent almost 58% of all PhD's produced in America and 75% of all PhD's produced in Florida.
If you don't find a problem with that then shame on you. It's reality. The E-Sch has only produced one Black EE PhD, less than 4 ME PhD's, 0 ChemE PhD's, 0 IE PhD's, and maybe 2 CivE PhD's in over 15 years.
The first 7 PhD's in EE were conferred on Asian students educated in the Far East. Are you implying that we could only find qualified students for OUR PROGRAM in China? Are you implying that you can't find Blacks here in America seeking a PhD degree, or for that matter the only folks able to profess in this E-Sch must be of Asian descent?
Chin's actions speak louder than his words.
If anything, their recruitment practices are racist, and not just a bit but a lot.
There are many inputs in graduating a PhD anywhere. We have student recruitment, treatment of the students once they are on board, etc,etc. Recently students working on their PhD (enrolled through FAMU) dropped out and re-enroll through FSU (keeping the same Examination Committee, i.e. no interaption in their schedule). Reason: bad treatment as far as getting their stipend etc, etc at FAMU. Now FSU will be claming credit for graduating these students. The reported refusal by the Interm President to meet with Dean Chen does not help at all. I hope the expected Permanent (Real) President will find FAMU-FSU College of Engineering to rescue. Remember: about 10-short-years ago both Student and Faculty ratios were about 50%-FAMU and 50%-FSU. Now it is less than 20%-FAMU to over 80%- FSU for faculty and 25%-FAMU to 75%-FSU for Students. If this trend is not arrested, there will be no FAMU-FSU to defend (rescue) or even split (for those who belive in spliting the College).
ReplyDeletehow funny the race card works. the person that uses it is always justified and victimized in the "truth" . Famu is a publicly funded universtiy that wants to have it's cake and eat it too. Famu takes tax money from a diverse state and then has someone call the engineering school "little beijing" because of the amount of asian students enrolled. Well with that being said why don't we all think of a name for FAMU as a whole. I wonder how the anonymous poster would react to a "little congo" comment based on the 92 plus percentage of blacks attending the university?
ReplyDeleteProbably not at all if the majority of the people were from Congo. Are the majority of the people from Congo or America?
ReplyDeleteCan you respond to rather or not the majority of the EE PhDs are American citizens or are they Asian/Chinese citizens?
FAMU is diverse, however, what rights does the Dean have in using Florida and American taxpayers monies to fund the education of none citizens. Is this fair and equal treatment? The comment wasn't to be racist, just stating the facts.
Famu is diverse? Maybe you should check your "facts" again. According to the Florida Board of Governors figures FAMU is 92.6 percent black american, 4.3 percent white, .9 percent asian, and 1.9 percent hispanic, .1 native american, and .2 not reported, which makes it the least diverse of all universities in the state. Furthermore at a time when all universities, state and national recognize the importance of diversity, huge campaigns are under way to recruit and retain minority students including foriegn ones. Where is FAMU out recruiting the best and brightest of all color? They are not and it seems if the engineering school is not black enough comments are made like the ones above.....education is not given to someone, it is earned by the people who deserve it, whether black, white, asian, hispanic, etc.
ReplyDeleteWhat does diversity have to do with educating foreigners? I pose the question again, what right does Dean Chin have using American and Floridian taxes to educate Chinese students?
ReplyDeleteYour stats indicate diversity, however, it may not be at the levels you desire. Diversity is not the same as majority. You get it? PWC are still predominately White. Okay....
It always comes back to a white black issue. If you must PWC's represent the demographics of Florida better than FAMU. Check out the Board of Governors website. The diversity of UF, FSU, USF, UCF, etc. are close to representing the state as a whole and each of these institutions are emphasizing recruitment and retention of minorities to further increase diversity. What is FAMU doing? Fighting to stay black? Time will tell that by staying the course FAMU will not be relevant. It must aggressively seek diversity like the other universities. All private/public institutions have foreign students. Non Residents must pay to go to school in the states unless a scholarship is provided. Diversity will help FAMU not hinder it.
ReplyDeleteAgain whether black, white, red, yellow, brown, you must earn your education.
Can you tell me how many Blacks and Hispanics with a SAT score less than 1,200 were admitted to UF's freshman class?
ReplyDeleteYeah, PWC choose their diversity very careful, while discriminating against qualified candidates. Is it really diversity when you exclude certain groups of students from enrolling? As a high school counselor I know of many instances where Black and Hispanic students with 1100 to 1200 on the old SAT were denied admission to UF because they did not meet UF's academic standards. These students in my opinion were outstanding students and ended up leaving the state of Florida for college.
Let's not be blinded.
8:32pm... You keep referring to documents supplied by our current state administration. You obviously don't know that "BLACK" people are "diverse" also. Crabs like you don't even understand that we have distinct cultures and are grouped by disposition in our society. Therefore the need for FAMU is everpresent and will evolve- rooted in its original mission. How many "african-americans" are going to college these days anyway. You can chime in on all of our issues as "black" people, I welcome you and your crab friends. Then, I believe our people will be able to better identify and remedy the social cancers that move you to act like crabs in this bucket in the first place. I say start with IDENTITY. If we could purge those ills and re-affirm our identity, maybe we can see and appreciate the diaspora for what it is and better facilitate the learning of our own. Abumdance of "Diversity" got FSU-since everyone likes to refrence the neighbor-a failing image by the SACS committee in the late '90's.
ReplyDelete8:32pm... You keep referring to documents supplied by our current state administration. You obviously don't know that "BLACK" people are "diverse" also. Crabs like you don't even understand that we have distinct cultures and are grouped by disposition in our society. Therefore the need for FAMU is everpresent and will evolve- rooted in its original mission. How many "african-americans" are going to college these days anyway. You can chime in on all of our issues as "black" people, I welcome you and your crab friends. Then, I believe our people will be able to better identify and remedy the social cancers that move you to act like crabs in this bucket in the first place. I say start with IDENTITY. If we could purge those ills and re-affirm our identity, maybe we can see and appreciate the diaspora for what it is and better facilitate the learning of our own. Abumdance of "Diversity" got FSU's COEd-since everyone likes to refrence the neighbor-a failing image by the SACS committee in the late '90's.
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