His name might not ring a bell.
And few Rattlers know the scope of his impact on campus.
For more than 30 years, Roland Gaines has been instrumental in increasing enrollment numbers and recruiting National Achievement Scholars to Florida A&M University.
After a brief hiatus at North Carolina Central University with President James Ammons from 2001 until 2007, he has come back home.
Read more at: Gaines returns to his alma mater
his name rings a bell all right. and the sound of it says: same ole, same ole. those of us who were there way before he left, during his tenure there and now do remember that he was ammons' & humph's flunkie. same ole, same ole, good old boy. network.
ReplyDeleteSTOP THE HATE!
ReplyDeletea discenting opinion is not "hate."
ReplyDeleteI wonder why FAMU is so incestous. It seems like it would be better for the institute if some new blood and new ideas were brought in.
EVERYone that comes in... former FAMU ties. This could not be productive - on a lot of levels.
Mr. Gaines was very productive during his previous tenure at FAMU. He got results and we are very fortunate to have him back. New blood is not always good blood. Thanks for coming back home Mr. Gaines. The haters are misinformed, mislead, and misfits.
ReplyDeleteWe love Mr. Gaines. Many of us stopped by and talked to him during homecoming week.
ReplyDeleteThanks Mr. Gaines. We are all winners because of you.
Thank you, Dr. Ammons, for getting rid of that inept Castell henchman Vinnie June and getting an experienced proven administrator like Roland Gaines in the VPSA position.
ReplyDeleteNow 10:29 p.m., you are wrong. As a faculty member who witnessed Dr. June's qualities as an administrator, he is very knowledgable, collegial, caring, and loves FAMU. Given his short tenure here, he never bad mouth anyone. Give credit, where credit is also due!
ReplyDeleteBy the way, Dr. June resigned from his position to support the new administration. He never petition for his job. That's experience and class!
I agree with stop hating and bad mouthing the previous administration. Particularly, Student Affairs as it was and is the most stable division in the university. Dr. June did a wonderful job and I'm sure Mr. Gaines agrees as he hasn't had any thing to clean up.
ReplyDeleteWe, as a people, have to get used to change. We may not always agree with change, but it happens everyday in higher education. What's makes FAMU any different? Good job Dr. June and Mr. Gaines!
As a faculty member who witnessed Dr. June's qualities as an administrator, he is very knowledgable, collegial, caring, and loves FAMU.
ReplyDeleteJune was an inept yes-man. If had a shred of competence, then he would have stood up against Castell's decision to stop recruiting students. Instead, as head of the division that includes the Office of High School and Community Relations, he sat and watched enrollment plummet.
Then, June had the nerve to come out in the Tallahassee Democrat and claim that the Humphries adminstration did not have a strategic recruitment program, either! He claimed that Humphries just went out a gave scholarships randomly to whoever, suggesting that FAMU's ability to remain in the top 5 institutions for National Achievement Scholars from 1987-2002 was simply a fluke.
And even as he refused to make recruiting the best and brightest black students a priority, June stated to the local newspapers that he wanted find money to recruit more students who weren't part of FAMU's majority racial demographic (e.g.: whites).
Roosevelt Wilson rightfully tore June to shreds over that issue. Every other public university in Florida makes white recruitment a priority. The more FAMU begins to look like them, the less reason there will be for FAMU to exist.
June quickly backed off his position after Wilson's stinging editorials.
Given his short tenure here, he never bad mouth anyone. Give credit, where credit is also due!
That simply isn't true. He bad mouthed the Humphries adminstration's successful recruitment program all the time in the Tallahassee Democrat.
June was also one of Castell's central operatives in the anti-James Ammons smear campaign. He was out slamming Ammons' capability and integrity all throughout the presidential selection process.
By the way, Dr. June resigned from his position to support the new administration. He never petition for his job. That's experience and class!
That is also untrue. Castell told all her senior administrators that if they didn't ignore Dr. Ammons' request for their resignations, then she would immediately fire them.
June refused to even cooperate with the transition process. Dr. Ammons sent Roland Gaines to meet with June to begin collecting information about the state of the student affairs division. June repeatly came late (sometimes by over an hour) and failed to provide the documents he was requested to produce.
In fact, June continued to ignore Dr. Ammons' requests for him to resign until the newly installed general counsel finally brought him a termination notice. The same thing happened with Elizabeth McBride, Grace Ali, and Rufus Little.
Vincent June's conduct was absolutely inexcusable. Dr. Ammons was right to get rid of him and bring in an experienced, proven VPSA.
Anonymous said... Now 10:29 p.m., you are wrong. As a faculty member who witnessed Dr. June's qualities as an administrator, he is very knowledgable, collegial, caring, and loves FAMU. Given his short tenure here, he never bad mouth anyone. Give credit, where credit is also due! By the way, Dr. June resigned from his position to support the new administration. He never petition for his job.
ReplyDeleteThat's experience and class!
11/13/2007 3:12 PM
PLEASE! More like an experienced (cl)ASS!
Stop the hatin'. Man the Mexicans are takin' over fast man. They takin' the black man jobs..
ReplyDeleteNo one's hating on June. They're just telling it the way it is.
ReplyDeleteIf he resigned, can you explain why he showed up for work and made an arse of himself when Mr. Gaines was parked in the VPSA space?
ReplyDeleteTo further exacerbate this issue he refused to turn in his resignation when requested by President Ammons. So plain and simple he was fired, dismissed, or terminated.
June had no class, and lack the professionalism that was needed in the VPSA office.
I work in the recruitment area, so stop lying on Dr. June. It's one thing to share, but to make up lies is another. We never had a recruitment plan until Dr. June and Mrs. Kennedy-Lamar arrived at the university. It was presented to the Board of Trustees and shared with faculty, staff, and students in a forum in the Grand Ballroom. Tell the truth people!
ReplyDelete11/13/2007 6:57 PM, you are not telling the truth on Dr. June and it's obvious that you are jealous of him. Do a public records request and see that Dr. June resigned. After talking with several executive administrators, Dr. Ammons never met with the administration to discuss or request anything. I'm sure Mr. Gaines can verify that he never requested to meet with Dr. June.
ReplyDeleteRoosevelt did not tear Dr. June to shreds. If you recall the article in the Capital Outlook, he really never interviewed Dr. June, but included exerts from a discussion that took place in the open forum in the Grand Ballroom. Mr. Wilson didn't put the conversation in the correct context, but that's exactly how niggas think. Dam*, we can never look at the whole picture, but quick to bring each other down. Dr. June has 14 years of experience in student affairs and was very successful before he arrived at his alma mater. I watched him work 13-15 hour days and weekends while I worked in fiscal affairs. I've been here 19 years and he took care of student affairs and the staff constantly gave him props. The only folks that complained were the lazy azzes who just wanted and continue to collect a check. I will admit that I didn't realize how far behind we were until some of the changes took place. Hell, at least he renovated his offices and made sure his folks were comfortable coming to work. Roland was here for years and didn't make the changes.
ReplyDeleteWe never had a recruitment plan until Dr. June and Mrs. Kennedy-Lamar arrived at the university.
ReplyDeleteIt's clear that you are another Bryant supporter because you are using one of her favorite tactics: insulting Rattler Country's intelligence.
Your claims that FAMU NEVER had a recruitment plan in the 118 years before Castell Bryant's administration came in is absolute nonsense!
If you took the time to ever study FAMU's history, then you would understand that presidents of our institution have been recruiting students since Thomas D. Tucker.
However, Frederick S. Humphries' administration took recruitment to another level that had never been witnessed in all of HBCU history. He set aside generous amounts to serve as scholarship dollars and raised millions from Fortune 500 Corporations to supplement the scholarship packages.
Humphries obtained lists of National Achievement Scholars and top black high school scholars each year. Then, he budgeted money for direct mailings and travel for face-to-face visits. He also used recruitment fairs at most out-of-town football games.
The results of Dr. Humphries' program were clear:
-Between 1988 and 2002, FAMU remained in the top five destinations for National Achievement Scholars nationwide. In 1992, 1995, and 1997 FAMU was #1 in National Achievement Scholar recruitment.
-Enrollment more than doubled between 1985 and 2001.
-FAMU, because of the enrollment increases, became the #1 producer of blacks baccalaureate degrees and has remained so ever since.
Fred Gainous dropped the ball on recruiting National Achievement Scholars. Still, he was wise enough to keep the basic recruitment program structure together and let experienced individuals like Bill McCray do their jobs. As a result, enrollment broke the 13,000 mark for the first time.
When Castell came into office, she immediately dimantled the recruitment program and refused to lift a finger to attract the best and brightest to FAMU. Enrollment took a nose dive and FAMU went into a budget crisis due to the loss in tuition income and state enrollment money.
Castell and her cronies like Vincent June tried to blame previous administrations by making false allegations that Humphries and Gainous did not have a recruitment program at all.
Stop trying to treat FAMUans like we're actually stupid enough to believe Castell's baseless claims. Her statements about the recruitment program are every bit as phoney as her "$8M surplus."
"Mexicans are taking the black man's jobs?"
ReplyDeleteWhat jobs belong to the black man?
Low skilled labor? No.
Come ON black man. Get an education, get a job and take care of your family and your wife. BE A MAN. Be faithful, have integrity, be smart. Be the best.
There is no Mexican holding you back. The only thing holding you back is YOU.
Roosevelt did not tear Dr. June to shreds.
ReplyDeleteYou definitely did not read the op-ed. Roosevelt said that June needed to either understand the importance of recruiting the best and bright black high school students or get lost.
If you recall the article in the Capital Outlook, he really never interviewed Dr. June, but included exerts from a discussion that took place in the open forum in the Grand Ballroom.
Okay. I stand corrected.
Mr. Wilson didn't put the conversation in the correct context, but that's exactly how niggas think.
This is a classic, lame tactic to attack what's written in the press: "They took what I said out-of-context."
June tried to play that game after Wilson's editorial came out by claiming that he really meant more diversity in terms of socio-economic status. It was a classic example of spin that characterized Bryant's administration.
Dr. June has 14 years of experience in student affairs and was very successful before he arrived at his alma mater.
All experience is not good experience. It's clear that the work June did prior to being hired by Castell did not prepare him for the challenge of being VPSA at a research university. His terrible performance is proof of that.
Hell, at least he renovated his offices and made sure his folks were comfortable coming to work. Roland was here for years and didn't make the changes.
So that's your basis for evaluating success? Before being pressured by state officials who were furious about the decreasing enrollment numbers, Castell and June couldn't find any money for recruitment. Yet, they could find money to make costly renovations to employee office.
No, Roland didn't prioritize buying new furniture or changing the paint colors in the Student Affairs office. He prioritized doing his job to recruit high-achieving students to the Hill, getting them the scholarship money they needed, and helping them obtain the customer services that they needed for academic success.
If he resigned, can you explain why he showed up for work and made an arse of himself when Mr. Gaines was parked in the VPSA space?
ReplyDeleteI heard about that incident, too. June was another one that simply refused to go until he was actually handed his termination notice. It was the same situation with Elizabeth McBride.
McBride actually complained that it was unprofessional to just let Avery McKnight show up in her place on day one handing out termination notices.
The logic is baffling. James Ammons gave all Castell's senior administrators notice well in advance that he wanted all their resignations. It's not his fault that Castell threatened to fire anyone who complied with his request.
June, McBride, and the rest of them had no excuse for pretending not to know what was about to go down on Dr. Ammons' first day.
11/14/2007 7:09 PM, obviously you weren't there or know the specifics of what went on the day of Dr. Ammons arrival. If you did, you would know that the only time for any of Castell's leadership to resign was on Ammon's start date and not prior. Good leadership, in the midst of change, makes sure that things flow and doesn't just jump ship when there are quality people who report to them. Hello!
ReplyDeleteSecondly, you must work in the Office of the VP for Student Affairs or the Office of the President to know anything about Castell threatening to fire folks or a parking issue dealing with Mr. Gaines. Remember, Castell was gone a month before her leadership left. Hello!
Basically, stop writing lies about things you don't have facts about because if you did, I wouldn't have to correct you. Why?..because I reported directly to him and still employed by the university. As someone else stated in their comments, stop hating and tell the truth!
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ReplyDeleteIs this that Bama VP June hired? If so, I hope Mr. Gaines is reading this site.
In fact, June continued to ignore Dr. Ammons' requests for him to resign until the newly installed general counsel finally brought him a termination notice. The same thing happened with Elizabeth McBride, Grace Ali, and Rufus Little.
ReplyDeleteVincent June's conduct was absolutely inexcusable. Dr. Ammons was right to get rid of him and bring in an experienced, proven VPSA.
11/13/2007 6:57 PM....
The above is too funny! For the record, Dr. June resigned from his job the weekend prior to Dr. Ammon's start date. He carbon copied the Board of Trustees, Chancellor's Office, and Human Resources. I work in human resources, so I know this for a fact. Do a public records request and you can get the facts. Dr. June exited with class and we respect him greatly. Stop the madness people!
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ReplyDeleteReally! On who's computer? That weekend he was locked out of the networked; including access to FHAC. NOW, Ms. Human Resource Officer, the letter you are referring to was after the termination letter was executed.
BTW, you are not implying that he sent Ammons' his letter of resignation are you? Especially with Cassie being long gone. So who did he address this letter to?
Look He WAS FIRED! Plain and simple.
For the record, Dr. June resigned from his job the weekend prior to Dr. Ammon's start date.
ReplyDeleteThat simply isn't true. June did not resign, as requested by Dr. Ammons. He was one of the administrators who secured a contract extension from Castell that went past Dr. Ammons' start date.
Still, the contracts had a 60-day "out clause." Since, June and several other Castell senior hires wouldn't resign, Dr. Ammons gave them their 60-days notice on his first day of work.
The Tallahassee Democrat confirmed that Vincent June was one of the VPs who received 60-day notice. If he had resigned like Dr. Ammons asked him to, then there would have been no need to terminate him that manner.
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Article published Jul 4, 2007
Five key FAMU workers will leave
By Angeline Taylor
DEMOCRAT STAFF WRITER
When Florida A&M University President James Ammons introduced his new administration Monday, a few things were left unsaid. Namely, those top employees who are no longer with the university following the transition.
At least five administrators under interim President Castell Bryant have been placed on administrative leave until Sept. 24. The leave represents a 60-day notice.
Given notices were Elizabeth McBride, FAMU's general counsel; Eva Wanton, special assistant to the president; Vincent June, vice president of student affairs; Rufus Little, vice president for auditing/compliance; and Grace Ali, vice president of fiscal affairs and administration.
June was reached by phone Tuesday. He said he preferred not to comment about leaving the university. However, he did offer some advice for Roland Gaines, the newly appointed vice president of student affairs.
"Student Affairs is very stable," June said. "There are a number of people there that really know their game. He has a very good team. I just hope that he listens and takes the advice of the employees there."
On Monday, Ammons said he was working on plans that could possibly include other employee changes. He said he's taking cues from his transition team.
"We have been able to get agreement from remarkably talented people to serve this administration and this university," Ammons said about the people he asked to join him at FAMU.
While there are five who were placed on leave as of Monday, there are other key administrators who will continue in their current roles. Those six people are Larry Robinson, FAMU CEO; Ronald Joe, interim vice president of development; Keith Jackson, vice president of research; Clarence Stallworth, associate vice president of construction and facilities; and Nelson Townsend, athletic director.
Robinson delayed a two-year program with the U.S. Department of Agriculture to lead FAMU after Bryant resigned.
"Dr. (Larry) Robinson did an outstanding job and I want to thank him publicly," Ammons said Monday. "We're going to find a way for Dr. Robinson to be part of this leadership team."
Five Florida A&M University administrators were given 60-day notice on James Ammons' first day as FAMU president. They are:
Grace Ali, vice president of fiscal affairs and administration. Salary: $187,200 a year.
Vincent June, vice president of student affairs. Salary: $166,400 a year.
Rufus Little, vice president for auditing/compliance. Salary: $166,400 a year.
Elizabeth McBride, FAMU's general counsel. Salary: $153,859 a year.
Eva Wanton, special assistant to the president. Salary: $99,673 a year.
The Tallahassee Democrat confirmed that Vincent June was one of the VPs who received 60-day notice. If he had resigned like Dr. Ammons asked him to, then there would have been no need to terminate him that manner.
ReplyDeleteExactly!!! The 60-day notice came after he had already resigned, so the Tallahassee Democrate was late. Again, I know because I'm in Human Resources...Hello!
I'm not even from FAMU and I'm laughing my azz off! I know Dr. June personally and I'm sure he doesn't miss the stress that went with this circus.
ReplyDeleteHell, I wish I could have gotten 60-days pay of my salary to regroup and relax. Not to mention the $$ the university has to pay him for his vacation and sick time. He was already vested in the university system of florida. You GO Dr. June!
Exactly!!! The 60-day notice came after he had already resigned, so the Tallahassee Democrate was late. Again, I know because I'm in Human Resources...Hello!
ReplyDeleteNo. June refused to resign. That's why he received the 60-day notice.
If he had resigned and left the university, then Dr. Ammons would not have had the power to terminate him. You can't give 60-day notice to someone who's already gone.
He was already vested in the university system of florida. You GO Dr. June!
ReplyDeleteI hope June enjoyed that 60-day paid vacation he received. No other university is going to hire him for the $166,400 that Castell gave him (because he damn sure didn't earn it).
lies, lies, and more lies! Dr. June was not locked out of FHAC because I helped him move boxes out of his office saturday and sunday. The staff in the VP Office knows this is true because it was empty when WE (take a wild guess) arrived Monday morning. Holla!!!!
ReplyDeleteThe other interesting point that liars didn't have access to is the fact the he sold his house well before July. Hmmmmm, seems like he had already planned to exit on his own.
Bottom line, he didn't run his mouth like others within the university, so that's why folks are misinformed. Nothing but class and we can use some of that around here.
Dr. June, where ever you are, I'm sure you are doing great!
I hope June enjoyed that 60-day paid vacation he received. No other university is going to hire him for the $166,400 that Castell gave him (because he damn sure didn't earn it).
ReplyDelete11/15/2007 1:33 PM
You are crazy! He has the experience and the credentials. You wish you were in a position to make this salary. Who are you to say he ain't gonna make that type of money. Research the salaries for student affairs, idiot! Stop hatin!
At least five administrators under interim President Castell Bryant have been placed on administrative leave until Sept. 24. The leave represents a 60-day notice.
ReplyDeleteJune should have resigned when he was told to instead of trying to hang on past Dr. Ammons first day. If June had simply cooperated, then Dr. Ammons wouldn't have had to place him on adminstrative leave for 60 days. The 60 day leave was neccessary to fulfill the "out clause" of his contract.
But I guess June was already accustomed to sitting around, doing nothing, and collecting a paycheck. What he did during those 60 days of adminstrative leave is much like he did while employed by Castell.
lies, lies, and more lies! Dr. June was not locked out of FHAC because I helped him move boxes out of his office saturday and sunday.
ReplyDeleteYeah right. You helped him move those boxes right after you found Castell's $8M surplus in big golden pot at the end of the rainbow.
You are crazy! He has the experience and the credentials.
ReplyDeletePlease. June bad-mouthed Ammons all throughout the presidential selection process because he knows he doesn't have the qualifications to be VPSA at an institution of FAMU's size and complexity. He knew that as soon as seasoned president came in, he would be out.
Castell had cut a deal with Thelma Thompson to be Executive VP and retain the entire interim administration. That was June's only chance.
June's going from being dean of students at FGCU to VPSA at FAMU was like winning the lottery. It happened to him because of the force of circumstances (Castell needing a convenient yes-man) and not because he did anything to earn it.
Sold his house, did he? I heard he was held up in someone's condo waiting on the sale of the "said house" as late as August.
ReplyDeleteThe only thing he can do is call CastHELL and that lying smokey breath Lizzie.
June you know your arse is about to get blown up. You need to stay off this board kneegrow!
Quit fighting! Look at all the Asians in our graduate programs. We need to focus on how to move forward or all these Asians and Indians are going to take control of our graduate programs.
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ReplyDeleteYou can thank Junie for this.
So June brought all the Chinese over and the Indians too? I thought FAMU was for the black man?
ReplyDeleteNo, June's recruiting focuses moved from African Americans to others. It's all in the BOT handbook when he made this idiotic presentation at a BOT meeting on the need to focus elsewhere. He did this while not understanding the mission of FAMU.
ReplyDeleteWait are you saying that people of other color are not welcome and encouraged to enroll?
ReplyDeleteThat is a bit racist.
That is right FAMU lives by the double standard and that is why no one takes the university serious.
Wait are you saying that people of other color are not welcome and encouraged to enroll?
ReplyDeleteNo. No one has said that. FAMU has never had any policy barring any applicant on the basis of race.
"No, June's recruiting focuses moved from African Americans to others. It's all in the BOT handbook when he made this idiotic presentation at a BOT "
ReplyDeleteDoes not sound that this rattler supporter is open to races of all color....
Rattlers talk out of both sides of their mouth! And guess what the state nows this too......Your time is up and no one takes this institution serious.
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ReplyDeleteYou must! Any and all things FAMU interest you. You are so worried about FAMU, that you can't sleep. You search the web looking for sites like these to comment on.
Get a life internet STALKER!
Although I am not against ANYONE attending FAMU or any HBCU, I am a tad bit concerned that the credibility of mission and purpose is predicated on whether Caucasians or other ethnicities attend the university. We all well know that even if FAMU was Harvard or Princeton, they STILL would not attend the school. This we should not deny. It is as if we are suggesting that all HBCUs should abandon their original mission as if it is now UNNECESSARY. As an HBCU educated man, I don't believe the accusations and assumptions that are being made against a university that still sees the need for its original mission while embracing the diversity of the world. Someone help me out!
ReplyDeleteFAMU has a diverse population. We recruit and offer scholarships, admission and opportunities to individuals of all ethnicities. We don't have to apologize to anyone for what we do and who we are.
ReplyDeleteWe are FAMU!
Look at our athletic programs, colleges and schools. They are diverse, even the Marching 100 Band.
We are FAMU Baby! Don't hate!
FAMU is 94 percent black and if you think that is diverse then........jeez
ReplyDeleteO.K. I have not seen Ammons hand out any scholarships to "other" colors. Can you send me a link to all this want of diversity?
Question, how many predominantly black high schools do any of our PWI of higher learning focus on or are in their top 5 high schools for recruiting?
ReplyDeleteLook, it is what it is. When PWI spend thousands of dollars of their funding (tax payers dollars) recruiting at certain schools no one speaks out.
They generally only visit Black HS when they are looking for athletes to keep those million dollar athletic programs fine tuned and bringing in that cheddar. To me it's just another form of slavery/racism.
Have you seen him handout any scholarships?
ReplyDeleteFor that matter how many scholarships have you seen PWI hand out to black students?
Please post a link in the RN.
BTW, black doesn't necessary mean of African American descent. You could be black and Haitian, Ghananian, Nigerian, South African, etc. We do have students that attend FAMU from other countries that are black.
Well for one the flagship institutions throughout the country are making diversity an integral part of the future in higher ed. Look at UF and FSU for start. FSU graduated the 4th or 5th, not sure, biggest class of black students in the country last year. Not bad! UF has one of the most diverse campuses in the country. Major institutions are doing something proactive for the better of higher ed.
ReplyDeleteGo to www.ufl.edu to see the progressive steps being made on recruitment, scholarships, and retention. Check out www.fsu.edu as well.
Now lets get back to FAMU, the school is doing absolutely nothing and is proud to be stuck in the 50s.
FAMU is not diverse, it is black, to the tune of 94 percent black.
Small minds.......
It also fact that black students that go to UF and FSU have better retention and graduation rates than that of FAMU.
ReplyDeleteSimply, UF and FSU do a much better job of educating black student than FAMU.
FAMU is failing overall. There are very some success stories and excellent students. But the overall student body is weak.
FAMU is not diverse, it is black, to the tune of 94 percent black.
ReplyDeleteThe reason FAMU lacks white students is because white students simply choose not to attend FAMU.
Jim Crow gave whites total control over public universities. Whites demanded separate schools, not blacks. Whites chose not to come because they preferred predominantly white institutions.
Thus, the low numbers of whites is the result of a simple matter of choice on the part of whites.
Simply, UF and FSU do a much better job of educating black student than FAMU.
ReplyDeleteFAMU remains the top producer of blacks with baccalaureate degrees. Neither UF or FSU can match that accomplishment.
FAMU's had a strong record on National Achievement Scholar Finalist and Semifinalist graduation during the Humphries-era.
The quote below comes from "Region trails in college graduation rates," by Scott Travis, South Florida Sun-Sentinel, February 13, 2007:
"As a statewide system, the graduation rate for Florida's public universities compares favorably with the nation's. About 63 percent of students finish in six years, compared with about 53 percent nationally. But seven of the 10 largest public universities in the state have six-year graduation rates below 50 percent."
The six-year graduations rates for FAMU's National Achievement Scholars and Semifinalists were as follows:
1997: 68%
1998: 67%
1999: 68%
It is clear that the six-year graduation rate for National Achievement Scholars and Semifinalists at FAMU during the Glory Years was well ahead of national and state averages.
"Jim Crow gave whites total control over public universities. Whites demanded separate schools, not blacks. Whites chose not to come because they preferred predominantly white institutions."
ReplyDeleteIt seems the shoe is on the other foot now. It seems FAMU demands to stay black.
FSU's and UF's six year graduation rate for its black students is nearly double than that of FAMU. That is a FACT.
Ironically, FSU will probably graduate more black students than FAMU on an annual basis in the next 5 years. UF will probaby pass FAMU in the next 7-10.
We are not talking about National Achievement Scholars, we are talking about black students in the SUS.
FSU, UF, FIU, and others are doing a better job at graduating black students than FAMU. These are facts that cannot be disputed!
It seems the shoe is on the other foot now. It seems FAMU demands to stay black.
ReplyDeleteThe shoe is not on the other foot. Whites chose to avoid FAMU in the past and continue to avoid FAMU in the present. It's not black people's fault that whites chose to avoid FAMU.
FSU, UF, FIU, and others are doing a better job at graduating black students than FAMU. These are facts that cannot be disputed!
FAMU is #1 in producing blacks with baccalaureate degrees. No other university in America graduates blacks as well as FAMU does.
"The shoe is not on the other foot. Whites chose to avoid FAMU in the past and continue to avoid FAMU in the present. It's not black people's fault that whites chose to avoid FAMU."
ReplyDeleteI don't see Ammons trying to recruit Asians, Hispanics, and Caucasians. Did he hand out any scholarships to people of other color in Orlando?
"FAMU is #1 in producing blacks with baccalaureate degrees. No other university in America graduates blacks as well as FAMU does."
There are plenty of universites that graduate black students better than FAM. FSU, UF, FIU, and UCF all graduate black students at a higher rate. Yes FAMU graduates more, but the rate is lower, much lower than FSU and UF.
In terms of numbers yes FAM is the number 1 producer of black graduates, but only by sheer enrollment numbers. FIU and FSU graduate almost as many as FAMU with a much lower black enrollment.
In the next 10 years FSU, UF, FIU, USF, UCF will graduate more or the same in terms of black students than that of FAMU.
Check out this link, FAMU ranks 6 out of 10 in terms of graduation rates.
http://www.baynews9.com
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I don't see Ammons trying to recruit Asians, Hispanics, and Caucasians. Did he hand out any scholarships to people of other color in Orlando?
ReplyDeleteBlack students have always sought out FAMU. White have historically avoided FAMU and still do. Therefore, it should be no surprise that most of FAMU's scholarships go to blacks.
"Some observers say the school's first dean, Luney, tried to minimize the risk by being more selective. But he faced backlash from FAMU supporters and the black community when the student body was not majority black."
ReplyDeleteFrom the Ledger about the law school.
It does not look like white, hispanic, or asian students are not wanting to attend the school.
How is this for welcoming other students of color?
It does not look like white, hispanic, or asian students are not wanting to attend the school.
ReplyDeleteWhites tend to enroll in FAMU's professional programs at a much higher rate than in its undergraduate programs. The lack of white applications for FAMU's undergraduate programs show that.
Furthermore, no one called for the white enrollment numbers in FAMU's law school to be smaller. There was a call for increasing the black enrollment numbers since educating more black lawyers is central to the law school's mission.
"Furthermore, no one called for the white enrollment numbers in FAMU's law school to be smaller. There was a call for increasing the black enrollment numbers since educating more black lawyers is central to the law school's mission."
ReplyDeleteWell if you call for more black enrollment and you demand a majority black student body you are going to have to decrease another! That does not sound welcoming to people of other color!