FAMU held on to the top spot in Diverse (formerly Black) Issues in Higher Education magazine's annual list of the top 100 producers of African Americans with baccalaureate degrees for the 2006-2007 school year. For the 5th year in a row the number of degrees FAMU awarded declined, this year by 3%, but our overall numbers were just enough to edge out Howard University.
FAMU awarded 1,224 baccalaurete degrees to African Americans to second place Howard's 1,202.
The number of degrees FAMU awarded dropped from 1608 degrees in 2001, a nearly 24 percent drop.
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Recruitment
FAMU enrollment continues to drop
FAMU losing more than 500 students per semester
Shrinking enrollment a major concern
can you provide a direct link to the data?
ReplyDeleteEven with all that has happened, we're still holding #1. From here, the only way to go is up!!
ReplyDeleteWow! Were are lucky to hold on to this. Next year we might be No. 2.
ReplyDeleteIt doesn't take a rocket scientist to see what happened. No students = no graduates.
Thank God the Jim Corbin, Fred Gainous, Cast-Hell Bryant era is finally over!
ReplyDeletewere slipping y'all. there is no reason why that number shouldnt increase to 1500 next year to 5000 in five years.
ReplyDeleteLet's not forge that there are still remments still lurking/surking on our campus. They are tyring to hold on to lie about what they have been "trying to accomplish", under Bryant. REMEMBER THE LIES & THE GAMES.
ReplyDeleteTime to get that recruitment program started back up and start rebuilding the enrollment and attracting top students!
ReplyDeleteLet's go Dr. A and start kicking ass and taking names later!
We know the names!!! It's time to give them their walking papers. All the little foxes have to go for us to grow.
ReplyDelete1:29--Not so fast. There are still a couple hold-overs hanging on (and hanging around). Let us celebrate when each and every shadow of CVB no longer walk the halls, cruise the corridors, pounce on the grass and unlock the doors of our institution. Only then can we all rejoice that the cancerous poison that nearly killed our school has been eradicated.
ReplyDeleteTo ensure graduation stats, I believe that FAM needs to get some transfers to mitigate low enrollment over the past two years. There are easy targets to get them, FSU/ FAU/ the two on-line schools/ TCC. The next two years are all but written off, this strategy will bring FAM back for the 3rd and 4th year. In the mean time, FAM can celebrate the improved rolls until then. The other thing is to concentrate on graduation rates in key depts (SBI/Pharmacy/Eng). Eng is easy - get the blacks who are at FSU or migrated over to come to FAM. SBI and Pharm are harder. Just a couple of thoughts. Hopefully, they are helpful.
ReplyDeleteI hope that one of the goals of the new administration is to re-vamp the Presidential Scholars' Program. Through Distinguished Scholars, NASA, Life Gets Better, etc., we can recruit many gifted students to the Hill (the way we used to).
ReplyDeleteI think that FAMU has all the tools that it needs to boost the graduate numbers even higher. They just need a little jump-start, that's all.
Enrollment is down because we no longer allow students to remain in school without paying tuition. I pay my tuition and I don't like the thought that a student in the next seat is getting a free ride. This was a pattern of illegal behavior that COST US MONEY. We can't spend money we never collected. We must hold ourselves to the highest standard of ethical, financial, and academic rigor. We're not doing that, folks. Why not? We are capable of being the best university in the state or nation. Why do we accept low expectations? I am embarrased that "that's how FAMU's always done it" (regarding folk not paying tuition) and excusing ourselves as poor. Black students at Florida's other schools have to pay tuition. We lost 1200 students who had been told they had to pay the freight. We've got to recruit students who qualify for financial aid, spend their funds wisely, and are capable of graduating. If they can't graduate, then they pull our statistics down to the bottom of graduates. When we come back in the fall, lets resolve each and every one of us hold themselves to the highest standards - and hold our new administration to that standard too. We need some PRIDE that is not bragging. One student bragged on TDO online that FAMU is better than FSU because FAMU won't admit students if there is any their ancestors took land from the Indians. How foolish does that make us sound???? We're black and we're proud, so why don't we act that way?
ReplyDeleteMany Black students need to live in the dorms to afford college, but have you seen some of our dorms? They are torn up and no self-respecting student would want to live there. We must fix the entire "package" that FAMU used to present to new students, and they were proud to pick FAM over Harvard. Not now - decay starts from the inside, then takes over everything, unless we get some PRIDE.
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ReplyDelete"We are capable of being the best university in the state or nation."
FAMU is a good place with alot of potential, but let's be realistic. If you've ever visited Stanford, Duke, Princeton, Yale, Harvard, you know FAMU can't compete directly with them.
Their facilities, endowments, faculties, the quality of their students, their research labs -- it's just amazing.
FAMU is a strong little (yes, little) state university that does some really good things.
But we ain't no Harvard. Ain't ever going to be, either. Let's just be the best d--- FAMU we can be, and leave it at that.
anonymous 7:52 is right about the stupid comment some FAMU booster put in the Tallahassee Democrat newspaper. Read it and weep because it sure makes us seem like we don't really have ANY PRIDE. We just make up s#*% and put down FSU to build ourselves up. When will be able to have pride in our school without tearing down another school. I am EMBARRASED. The poster is "hollywood."
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cjm04,
I think what you meant to say is that FAMU and FSU have different admission requirements. FAMU’s standards are not low by any means. And, not all of FSU’s students can meet FAMU’s admission requirements. We do not admit any students who we suspect are descendants o
Why4 you are right on - I should have said we can still turn this around and have a personal best.
ReplyDeleteHas anyone else read this? How does FAMU determine if ancestors stole land from Indians?
ReplyDeletecjm04,
I think what you meant to say is that FAMU and FSU have different admission requirements. FAMU’s standards are not low by any means. And, not all of FSU’s students can meet FAMU’s admission requirements. We do not admit any students who we suspect are descendants of people who stole land from Native Americans (aka Indians).
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PostPosted: Fri May 25, 2007 4:04
7:52--I agree with all of what you say, except the statement about students "spending wisely." Of course, we cannot mandate how students spend their financial aid dollars after the tuition fees (etc.) have been subtracted from the award. If students have not been taught financial responsibility at home, they will not bring such skills to the university. But I do understand, of course, the need for students to behave in an academically and fiscally responsible manner. I teach at the university, and I see much money being foolishly thrown away via of students who don't achieve academically and who believe that the financial aid is "free money." A few years ago, I had a student tell me that he had missed so many classes because he was trying to negotiate a deal for the purchase of a car (with financial aid funds). He did exactly that, paying, he later informed me, nearly $10,000 for a four-year old car. He later dropped out, reporting to me in an e-mail that he "got caught up in that new car thang," which prevented him from devoting himself to his studies. I later came upon him, perhaps a year later, and he informed me that he had totaled "that" car and was attempting to get a less-expensive one with the money he "knew" was coming. The only thing I could say to the young man was, "Good luck with your studies and your new car," and walk away. Until students accept personal responsibility for their behavior, I'm afraid they are headed toward a lifetime of financial irresponsibility.
ReplyDeleteanonymous 7:52 p.m Sounds like our compliance VP RL, is that you little.
ReplyDeleteHey you clucks, I am a scholarship reciepient,if it was not for juila brunson,the scholarship office would not be operating at all. If managment is the problem aka DK-L and June then how the hello can scholarship get better. Blame the leadership not the followers. Stop your bitchin, let Ammons do his thing. Remember he is one person, but it will take the entire FAMU village to turn it around. So if Ammons fail, we all have failed him
ReplyDelete"Stop your bitchin, let Ammons do his thing"
ReplyDeleteI agree. Dang the man is proving he has FAMU's best interest at heart and ya'll ain't satisfied. Dang!
Ammons isn't even "official" yet--yes, yes, I know he's on campus and doing the presidential thing, but dadgummit, let the man get his feel on the grass before we start to shooting bullets. Lord, have mercy, we can just about kill anything before it takes its first breath.
ReplyDelete8:47, you know your comment is right on the money. We simply need to be the best that we can be. We are not, as was said during out heydey, the "HBCU Harvard of the South." Hello? Anybody home? There is no Harvard "of the South," and if there were (subjective modd of the verb be), we would not be it. HBCU or otherwise? There is not even a discussion to be had about such a label. Ain't gonna be, ain't gonna happen. Ain't gonna be happening. To thine own self, one must be true. If we can pay the people on time, I'd say we're moving forward in one direction. Other movement will come, in time.
ReplyDeleteTypo corrections on my 4:31 post:
ReplyDelete"our heydey" and "subjunctive mood..."
Are degrees from these different universities comparable?
ReplyDeleteDo they have similar requirements and standards?
Is it too late to post a comment on this particular subject? I hope not!
ReplyDeleteI was anonymous 8:47 the other not, and I'm not compliance VP RL - I wish I was a VP! I am all for giving Dr. Ammons time and space to fix problems that were years in the making, and can't be fixed overnight. An old boss of mine used to say "a new broom sweeps clean" - not that I am calling Dr. Ammons a broom, but he needs to sweep clean. When I pray for him, I pray for courage. That's what he will need; that and our support. (I am a pharmacy grad, working at Publix. Not a VP but if drafted I might consider it!)
The African American graduates of FSU are actually accomplished students, otherwise they'd not have graduated.
ReplyDeleteLikewise FAMU?
I doubt it.
Did you notice that FSU is a HUGE african american diploma mill too?
ReplyDeleteFSU is a diploma mill for African Americans like UC Berkeley is a diploma mill for Asian Americans.
ReplyDeleteIf they can graduate from FSU they are good students, regardless of where their ancestors came from.
Let's be fair! Where does the "diploma mill" rant come from??!! Where has the QUALITY of education of black students from either FAM or FSU been documented, other than a lower than acceptable (to black folk AND white folk) bar exam pass rate? Maybe there are valid complaints about how long it takes some students to get a bachelor's degree; maybe we take longer for a variety of reasons. It makes sense for financial reasons for all students to graduate ASAP. All SUS students must pass the CLAST, which it the basic skills test (the three R's) plus their major. Our financial problems, and even the hiring of a sub-par writing professor for the FAMU C.O.L. might be due to hiring and retaining our cronies when we should cut them loose if they can't perform. But lay off the students. They are the future of the U.S.A. If white folk don't call them diploma mill graduates, and say they aren't equal to white students, then they are more likely to represent all folks who love liberty and the U.S.A., not find that the only friendly faces are those of black folk. Why can't we remember the Golden Rule when we deal with ALL people, even if we are up against people who don't act in accordance? WWJD? Let's start a trend and do it!
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